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GRORTNETA: “The Mayor”

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Pharoahe Monch – “Mayor

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from Soundbombing 2 (Rawkus, 1999)
Young Jeezy f/ The Clipse – “Ill’in

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from Trap Or Die 2 (Mixtape, 2010)

One of my main complaints about Wayne’s No Ceilings was the beat selection. It was strictly Wayne raps to the hits, like he watched MTV Jams for an hour and just wrote to each of those songs. A great mixtape isn’t just karaoke. DJs like Drama and Green Lantern have earned names for themselves because of their ability to find unexpected beats that fit the artists they are working with. I’m still digesting Jeezy’s Trap Or Die 2 but one of the early standouts is “Ill’in” which revisits this somewhat obscure Pharoahe Monch cut from the Soundbombing 2 comp. The sound is just so incredibly and naturally Jeezy. (It’s appropriate that the The Clipse show up too, themselves long standing masters of finding the right beat to jack.) Here Don Cannon doesn’t just throw on the instrumental, it sounds like he rebuilt the track by hand, even slipping in the opening piano from the original Lamont Dozier sample. Oh yes, down south digging is the theme for today. (You might also recognize the Lamont cut as the same source of Ghostface’s “Saturday Night” and G-Side’s “We Own Da Building.”)

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18 Responses to “GRORTNETA: “The Mayor””

  1. Big Rome Says:

    I knew that beat from “lll’in” sounded familiar.

  2. GrandpaJesus Says:

    Dam, I need to revisit that Monch song, it sounds good.

  3. YoDaddy Says:

    I remember that beat from Supreme Clientele or one of of GFK’s albums…damn I’m old

  4. Ross Hogg Says:

    Don Cannon got that deadstock gold, son!

  5. AlphaCityLC Says:

    I think stuff on Soundbombing II counts as records from Rawkus that people talk about, just sayin

    Agreed on the No Ceilings analysis…Cannon/Drama/Lantern make so much difference; really looking fwd to the Gangsta Grills with Pill

    …and, although they don’t get much love around here, that Cool Kids tape with Cannon was dope

  6. TSF Says:

    Love, love, love that Pharoahe track! One of my favorite stories on wax, actually. This must be what he meant by “spittin’ verbal photography.”

  7. noz Says:

    “I think stuff on Soundbombing II counts as records from Rawkus that people talk about, just sayin”

    Probably, yeah. But I was excited to actually tie the ocassional Rawkus column into a current rap world event. I will go back to the obscure with the next one, I promise.

  8. SMM Says:

    I also hate when mixtapes only have new songs

  9. MF Says:

    This is pretty much the perfect beat for Jeezy to rap over, given the whole sweeping, grandiose feel of Trap Or Die 2. As you say, it definately sounds like an inspired-by beat rather than a straight beatjack but would it not be more likely to be inspired by Saturday Night than The Mayor? Sweet tie-in to the Rawkus post series either way,

    That Lamont Dozier sample was first used on the 18th Letter by Rakim, which is probably his best post-Eric B song, although there are only like 4 or 5 great post-Eric B Rakim songs.

  10. parodi Says:

    This is Jeezy’s beat now..

  11. noz Says:

    “As you say, it definately sounds like an inspired-by beat rather than a straight beatjack but would it not be more likely to be inspired by Saturday Night than The Mayor? ”

    To my ears it’s structurally a lot closer to the Monch record, right down to the drum pattern. It could also just be a huge coincidence, I suppose.

  12. posdu Says:

    you forgot to mention The Alchemist’s track of the same name

  13. LockThree Reppin Says:

    You had me at Lamont Dozier samples.

    Nah, this is for a sure a perfect fit for Jeezy/Clipse. As for the entire Trap or Die II project I bang about 8/22 of the tracks which mathmatically puts it at 36 but you get mad bonus for a Clipse feature. I’d drop the lowest score, curve it and give it a 75(C+)

    -LockThree.com

  14. Web Conn Says:

    The sample was also used on Chrome’s I learned on his debut Straight to the Pros.

    “That Lamont Dozier sample was first used on the 18th Letter by Rakim, which is probably his best post-Eric B song, although there are only like 4 or 5 great post-Eric B Rakim songs.”

    Actually the Sample was first used on Gangsta Blac’s song Wanna Guess off his debut album Can It Be which came out a year before Rakim’s 18th Letter

  15. MF Says:

    Yeah, but Wanna Guess doesn’t use the really shrill string sample used on all these, Web Conn, It uses the the fuzzy wah-wah guitar from a different part.

    Anyway, I can hear the drum pattern comparison on Ill’in and Mayor, but i think Illiin sounds a lot more charged like Saturday Night. I’m also imagining Don Cannon is probably more likely to be a Supreme Clientele fan than a Soundbombing 2 fan? I’m prepared to be proved wrong if Jeezy’s next album has a Don Cannon beat with the same sample as Stanley Kubrick or B-Boy Document ’99, though.

  16. noz Says:

    “I’m also imagining Don Cannon is probably more likely to be a Supreme Clientele fan than a Soundbombing 2 fan? ”

    Well I’m not too sure what Cannon’s history is, but I do know that his one time partner Drama comes directly from the Soundbombingish scene, having even DJ’d for Bahamadia some in his formative years. It might be a mixture of both, who knows.

  17. bding7 Says:

    is it weird that i really prefer hearing jeezy over samples as opposed to someone like, say, shawty redd? or am i missing something?

  18. AM1580kday Says:

    shine gets hit all teh dam time- ghost, p-monch, alchemist, psc, bowwow, cubanlink, sche, ransom, common mkt, volunteers, kd, gside, doap, papoose, clue, journ, crome, blac, 36m, fuk thats a lot of bitin ass . . .

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