This is monstrous. Joe has become the master of the deceptive street single. It seems like every year he releases some mind crushing leadin to a forgettable or corny full length. He could have saved New York years ago had he just consolidated his efforts.
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For me it’s kind of hard to take anything serious a NY rapper says these days. That city has changed drastically over the past few years, definitely not what it was in the 90′s when it was strong and still “grimy.” For it to come back alive the environment needs to change. Artists are products of their environments hence you have the new NY blipster rap.
I’m not saying I don’t like this, I just would’ve loved to see the response if Jay had dropped this single using those punchlines over a sample this potentially gimmicky attached to a video this full of shallow landmarks. This is a naked and somewhat cheap play for the nationalistic NY pride he turned his back on a long time ago when Miami was poppin. Again not a bad song but “why’s it always gotta sound like the next man’s shit” Joe?
What Fat Joe made is outdated. You can’t revive NY rap by just going back to what killed it in the first place which is it being overtly NY with an over the top video going along with it at a time where NY isn’t what it’s depicted in the music. NY rap is dead. Goodbye! It’s basically the same comment, Abraham.
Jay hasn’t rapped with this much energy to a beat this nice in six years.
I don’t think this is a regressive beat either. Throwback, sure. But it’s dynamically modern, the drums are mixed uniquely, the guitars are distinct even the hardest classic boom bap was never this kind of hard. Show me a true school beat that sounds like this. “Made You Look” is really the only point of reference, but I’d say that was similarly retro but original.
I dunno, Theifs Theme & Hip Hop is Dead, PSA, Come On Baby, You Don’t Know, (Basically any number of Just Blaze Beats featuring raging guitars playing with soulful vocal snippets) some bomb squad shit, Real N******* dont die, Signifying Rapper. I suppose no song ever made is EXACTLY like this one but you’re not telling me there’s not a very established familiar approach at play here? I don’t want to be a hater but if we’re gonna belabor the issue, Fat Joe 5 years ago sounded nothing like this. Not even on grimy shit like “Yeah Yeah Yeah” You could argue Don Cartagena and his shit on Capital Punishment was like this or take it back to DITC, but in my intangible and totally unfair opinion that was when he ACTUALLY sounded like that as opposed to transparently trying to sound like that. Its like he’s dick riding the nostalgic NY thing that’s big in the city right now just like he dick rode Khaled and Ross when they were hot and based on the video and the whole thing it seems like he’s clearly striving for I dont even understand how thats up for debate.
Fat Joe does not and has never rapped well. He was tolerable ten years ago but even then he was weak by the standards of the time. If New York is going to re-emerge as a creative force in rap music, I do not want Fat Joe to be involved whatsoever.
You seem to vaguely dislike Joell Ortiz but I don’t understand why. On some days it feels as though Ortiz is the only gifted rapper left in New York who hasn’t been in the game 10 years or more. He might not fit this beat but I would rather hear him on it than motherfucking Fat Joe.
In fact, if you exempt the irredeemable Joe Budden, every member of Slaughterhouse has been doing more-or-less excellent rapping in the traditional multisyllabic ’90s style, and any of them would have eaten this alive. That said, their album was mostly lousy, because Fat Joe appears to have significantly better instincts as to how to craft a great rap single than they do. Which is unfortunate verging on agonizing.
beat is nice, joe does his thing…i guess. this dude’s style keeps changing though, and i think it probably has to do with whatever ghostwriter he’s working with. i pulled out don cartagena the other day and was actually pretty impressed with his lyrics, but i’m pretty sure pun wrote most of that album. listen to joe’s rapping now, and pun’s influence is sorely missed.
yeah it sounds way too rock influenced for me, especially the drum programming/mixing, not to mention lazy sampling (its nice that they got the hendrix version, but its a rock standard, surely they could have sampled another version that was more aggressive so it fit better w/ the rest of the beat) im not even gonna touch joe’s rapping
True monstrousness doesn’t come from a bombastic riff. Like “Safe 2 Say” this tastes good on the first bite, but feels hollower with each successive listen. It isn’t just that it is a blatant retread of Thief’s Theme and 99 Problems. There is something superficial about this beat, even when it seems to be hitting the sweet spot. Fat Joe simply lacks the presence or strength of character necessary to make something truly substantive. There is loudness here but no guts beneath it.
Didn’t the UK’s Hijack on their monstrous hardcore rap track, Phantom of the Opera er… hijack this sample before Thief’s Theme, Hip Hop is Dead and Hey Joe! To be honest I think this is Fat Joe’s best track since That White!