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That’s All Folks


You may have noticed that the site was offline for a little while earlier today. I thought it was because I hadn’t paid my bill. In actuality Warner Music Group Gray Zone Bluehost somebody? had my account suspended, no questions asked, no warnings given, for posting Gucci Mane music. Well damn!

I’m now told I cannot stream or offer any Gucci for download. I am not even allowed to make embedded videos available or link offsite files. Basically you will never hear Gucci Mane music through this site again. Longer rant to come. Right now I have two hours to frantically delete all Gucci from the site or it goes down again for good (and that’s a lot of Gucci).

Update: I just spent the afternoon on the phone with my ISP Bluehost and Douglas Kassem, VP of Gray Zone, the piracy watchdog group with a laughably ironic name that labels like Warner hire to harass broke bloggers. As it turns out, Gray Zone sent me this vague and ominous email about the track yesterday and CC:ed it to my host’s abuse department. It ended up in my spam box because it looked like spam. (Basic internet reasoning is that any email with the word URGENT in all caps is probably not actually urgent, paradoxically.)

But Mr. Kassem assured me that Gray Zone and Warner were only concerned with the track “I Got All Of That” and that they never asked Bluehost to have me remove all Gucci or to shut down my site. Bluehost somehow misinterpreted this line of the email: “IMMEDIATELY REMOVE ALL LINKS, REFERENCES, DOWNLOADS, VIDEOS, STREAMING AUDIO, AND MP3 FILES ASSOCIATED WITH GUCCI MANE” as a call for me to immediately remove all links, references, downloads, videos, streaming audio and mp3 files associated with Gucci Mane. Bluehost was to psychically infer that this was in reference to just one specific track, which was never mentioned by name.

So here’s the long and short fallout: old posts can stand (should I roll back through and restore the links? do you guys care? i’m really tired of cutting and pasting) and I’m told to not post any “new Gucci that might be on his album” in the future. Whatever that means. I suspect it will be another 24hrs before I get a new Gucci related track mp3 emailed to me from an @wmg email address or the camp of a high profile Gucci collaborator.

So I’m not sure who’s the most at fault here. Gray Zone, my itchy trigger finger service provider (maybe it’s time for a new one?) or Warner themselves for sending in the internet storm troopers. I am leaning to the latter,as these are the same dudes who deleted “Cop Killer, shelved Black Bastards and Live & Let Die and had Prince writing “slave” on his cheek.

My sincere condolences to Mr. Radric Davis for ending up on a label that so grievously misunderstands the modern music promotional landscape. Because there is no plugging a leak after it breaks. They are wasting every cent they have given Gray Zone. Everyone that downloaded “I Got All Of That” has already passed it to their friends, reuploaded it to their favorite message board, posted it on twitter on some Kevin Spacey pay it forward shit. If Gucci, Warner or anybody else can’t contain his music they need to look around their offices and crew and figure out who is letting it get out. They should not be going after the hand to hand underground distributors who play a big part of artists like Gucci getting any buzz in the first place. Quite frankly this is much too much headache and I’m probably going to be very tentative about writing about Gucci Mane or any music from the Warner stronghold in the future. On both my illegal bootleg mp3 blog and at the more legitimate mainstream publications I contribute to.

To any other labels or creepy internet piracy watchdogs: there’s a contact button in the top right hand corner of the site. If you are a label that wants your music removed from the site please send me an email asking as much. Try to word it so it gets past my spam filters and mention the specific tracks in question. I’ve always been pretty receptive to these requests when I see them. There’s no need to mess with my livelihood and waste my afternoon by going above my head to have my site shut down entirely. I could have all put this time and effort towards actually getting some positive publicity for artists like Gucci.

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64 Responses to “That’s All Folks”

  1. mark p. Says:

    That’s some bullshit. I was just wondering the other day about whether labels have started going after mp3 blogs, and now I have my answer.

    You’d have think that the label would have realized that trying to stop Gucci’s music from being downloaded on the internet would just be a pointless endeavor by this point?

  2. mark p. Says:

    *you’d think

  3. thehoustongirl Says:

    Damn Noz, that’s fucked up. Oh well…..that’s ONE less thing you have to write about on your site. I mean I like Gucci but fuck him (ugh) and that bitch made ass label, Warner.

  4. bobbydinero Says:

    Forget that music. It would be nice to focus on more local acts. No troubles there.

  5. paul j. Says:

    fuck warner bamas

  6. doorknobs Says:

    TOTALLY FUCKED

  7. Dean Says:

    Who is your webhost? Maybe it’s time to find someone who will stand up for your rights.

  8. david Says:

    i mean..personally i wont miss him much…..

  9. emynd Says:

    You should sue Warner for sending you these promo emails and fucking up your livelihood.

    -e

  10. Mike Jordan Says:

    What the fuck is going on with the internet censorship this week? Cats need to get on some pushback shit. First the shit with Bol (he really needs to quit for that type of shit; I’m sure other sites would be interested in hiring him), and now this Warner bulls.

    Wonder if Nah Right is affected by this.

  11. nico Says:

    Damn! Good thang I downloaded all those gucci cuts and made copies for 50 of my bestest friends. Haha, Fuck Warner! Their suits all goin’ to hell anyways.

  12. Whut-BMCrEW Says:

    the fukers did the same shit to me.
    I had posted a review & samples of chester french and they removed it and sent my host a notice to have me removed from there hosting..
    Not only them but also STONES THROW RECORDS who are super haters they had removed everything and anything I had that belonged there label on my page.

  13. giraffo Says:

    Damn, that sucks. Warner is well known for pulling bitch moves on sites and forums. A couple of years ago they sent cease and desist orders to everyone who even talked about Talib’s EarDrum, at the exact moment Kweli was starting to get his buzz back. I’m think I’m gonna go dl me some Gucci Mane now, just to spite these fuckers.

  14. Mike Says:

    mmm but im wondering how many songs of guccis you posted that are actually owned by Warner. It’s sounds a lil wierd that they want every gucci track taken down when half them joints are from mixtapes days, maybe they bought everything that dude did.

  15. Nordy Says:

    That’s fucked up. I probably wouldn’t know anything about Gucci Mane if it weren’t for this website. I guess the labels don’t like new people to learn about their artists.

  16. Stunt Says:

    What happened with Bol?

  17. Johnny Sagan Says:

    Ha Paul, Warner Bamas!

    Sorry this happened, Noz. This goes to show, however, that the fact that service providers who must operate lawfully own the ACTUAL nuts-and-bolts internet…it’s a BIG problem for online culture. Warner Bamas and their peers own SO MUCH of our cultural heritage, SO MUCH we’d like to be able to talk about computer-to-computer, and they’re clearly ready to fight to make us pay for the privilege…we’re in deeper shit than I thought, Soylent Green Is People!

    You think THIS Congress is going to do anything but go along with the music publishers’ insistence that their property rights are sacred?

  18. DthaV Says:

    That is some serious BS, for not all hip hop fans are located in the US and not all of us have MTV or BET.

    how about some more local acts from around the US. How about a regional section that has audio and video from talented hip hop artists?

  19. Mike Jordan Says:

    @ STUNT:

    They erased his blog from a couple days ago saying that “Off That” sucks. Just in time for the Jay-Z mag cover.

  20. skinny Says:

    yo for that matter what happened with stones throw?

  21. MF Says:

    A karma payback for inspiring a handful of cretins to discuss N*s and J*y-Z the other day?

  22. giraffo Says:

    Warner should cease and desist Bill O’Reilly and Rush Limbaugh.

  23. Elijah Says:

    Damn. Steady biting the hands that feed them. I may not have heard of Gucci through Coke blunts, but I honestly didn’t plan to give him much thought until I read some of your defenses of him (jury’s still out for me, though).

    Incidentally, please tell me that motherfucker’s name is actually Douglas Douglas Kassem, and that it’s not a typo.

  24. john Says:

    like water off a duck’s back noz. Keep paddling; you’re valuable.

  25. BENJY Says:

    it’s all stealing it’s to be expected

  26. mark p. Says:

    lol @ the Stones Throw thing. Yeah I’m SURE they got clearance for all the samples on Madlib and Oh No’s records…

  27. dj intro Says:

    Focus more on local acts for shore, theres too much unsigned hype out there that as a general public we are missing out on.

  28. reko Says:

    just change all the tracks titled Gucci Mane to Poopie Hanes..problem solved..or did I just blow up the spot?! Daaaamnn

  29. mitch Says:

    damn, that’s some bullshit. there’s no way i would have come to enjoy gucci mane as much as i do now if it weren’t for the songs on this blog. smh @ warner bros for completely misunderstanding the way artists blow up in this day and age.

  30. dave quam Says:

    jesus i hate record companies

  31. DR. NO Says:

    Shake it off + keep writing about whatever’s relevant. Fuck the law. What are they gonna do? Nothing. I hear what people are saying about focusing on local/regional shit- that’s a valuable part of this site but I actually dig the Jay-Z and Gucci posts. Rap minutiae is cool but the big picture needs discussing too. Just my 2 cents.

  32. Stunt Says:

    Not to be alarmist, but your comment about avoiding music “from the Warner stronghold” terrifies me, since that includes E-40. I don’t even know when the last time was that you wrote about him, but that truth doesn’t stop me from hitting refresh on my browser once a day hoping you’ve covered 40 Water again.

  33. Steven Says:

    I had never listened to Gooch until I bookmarked the feed for this site. I was anticipating some fresh raps when I saw that pendant.

  34. TSF Says:

    I was wondering when companies would get around to fucking with the blogs, it’s sort of the logical next step after fucking with the mixtape circuit. Man, it’d be cool if you did an interview with Gucci and asked him what he thinks about this bullshit!

    Also, how the fuck is anyone supposed to figure out what songs *might* be on a Gucci album? That’s anybody’s guess!

  35. KEEP YA HEAD UP Says:

    Here’s something for my godson Noz
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm7aCPa-_ew

  36. GROOVE Says:

    Man, Warner are a bunch of idiots for pulling this crap. Like others above have said, WMG clearly doesn’t understand that you were helping to PROMOTE their artist, not hurt his sales. I’m now a fan of Gucci Mane thanks to reading your blog. Oh well, whatever. Keep up the good work man!

  37. er4se Says:

    yo noz… fuck these TI motherfuckers… shit, gucci should just start up his own label

  38. JUICE Says:

    No! Your Gucci updates are my favorite thing about the site. Fuck Warner, Gucci Mane 4 life!!!!

  39. G Off Says:

    Gucci wack anyway.

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  41. p-417 Says:

    please don’t stop writing about Gucci

    (and I personally would be thankful if you did re-up the old stuff yuo deleted, painstaking I know but you should really do for the principle of it, and you know, for the people)

    btw: the days of paying for music are OVER and the sooner these suits realize the better for everyone. No one born after 1990 is EVER going to BUY music (let alone a CD, they still make players for those?) so just give that shit up already

  42. khal Says:

    thats some fucking nonsense. if warner media can’t understand how this thing works, fuck ‘em. i don’t wanna hear them complain about the nigga not getting sales, though.

  43. PimpTrickGasngtaClick Says:

    Ain’t even came out yet. Posed to come out next week.

  44. jacob Says:

    fuck warner music so much. removing audio soundtracks vids on youtube, this shit…etc.

    your empire has fallen, good riddance none of us need you anyway….

  45. baz Says:

    If it wasn’t evident before with the Black Eyed Peas feature, it is now. Gucci will never make as dope music as he did before. He’s lost to the majors now and he will be used by Warner to make ends. He’s probably getting awful direction now as well.

  46. Hugo Says:

    This is the type of shit makes me not even wan’t pay for any music if part of the money goes to record companies. Whenever I buy a CD I just cop it right off the artists myspace, or find their e-mail and ask them to send it to me. More paper work for the artist, but atleast they get the money instead of the record companies.

  47. nick_sweepah Says:

    dude. i’m sittin here in perth, australia (the most isolated capital city in the whole world), and the only reason i’ve listened to anything gucci mane made is because you posted it. i’ve been following this blog for about 4 years, or thereabouts…

    this is true, but i only write this so that Warner might see it. that is all.

  48. BFRED Says:

    God, this kind of shit makes my head want to explode. Its funny how they try to get you to take down music because of supposed “copyright infringement” when these are unreleased, unmastered songs that have clearly not even been copyrighted, and in many cases contain samples that have not yet been cleared. The reality is that more often than not, the labels have absolutely NO legal right to be telling anyone what to do with music they have never even released. They try to strong arm the “little guy” using these shady techniques because they KNOW nothing would stand up under actual legal scrutiny. And, ironically, once the album/song has actually been released commercially (ie after they have an actual right to file an infringement claim), they tend to stop worrying about it.

    I really enjoyed reading this post. More people need to write about these types of incidents so everyone can be aware of the ass-backwards techniques that are still being used by labels who wish it was still 1998.

  49. ScrewHeads.Com Says:

    Crazy! Maybe they’d be happier if all of their artists were blackballed from blogs.

  50. SWITCH™ Says:

    Very well put. I’ve had the section of music on my little blog completely removed without being made aware on more than one occasion. We are the ones that help these artist get their underground buzz, but we’re the ones to suffer first hand. SMH.

  51. DJ Says:

    Good discussion but this is so far off it’s a little worrying:

    ” Its funny how they try to get you to take down music because of supposed “copyright infringement” when these are unreleased, unmastered songs that have clearly not even been copyrighted, and in many cases contain samples that have not yet been cleared. The reality is that more often than not, the labels have absolutely NO legal right to be telling anyone what to do with music they have never even released.”

    A song being unreleased or unmastered has nothing to do with it not having copyright. There is a legit argument for the free sharing of music as promotion but let’s not start relying on false legal assumptions.

  52. Hephaestus Says:

    For all the music you post, post the full e-mail minus the email addresses right under next to the song link

  53. carter Says:

    Fuck them ole hoes ass niggas (master p tone from im bout it)

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  55. brandon Says:

    YES! you should compile all the gucci posts that you deleted into one post and post that shit! please!

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  57. No Man Holes Up for me,please,thats gay Says:

    Was just a little overkill on the Gucci tip, don’t ya think.
    Jesus, I’ve never seen a rapper have his balls polished on the reg by so many bloggers…
    Now, I can put this blog back on my Google Reader.

    Don’t agree with how it went down though..
    Shit’s foul. Fuck a Warner Brother.

  58. Doxx Says:

    The way they do that shit is foul Noz. They (Warner, Greyzone) pulled the same shit on me two different times in 2008 in regards to stuff I posted from E-40.

    Had my site on lockdown with me unable to post for a day or two. I was fucking heated.

    One of my “NOTICE OF INFRINGEMENT” e-mails was them wanting anything about “Wake It Up” featuring Akon taken down. Fine, whatever.

    The other one they hit me for was a post that was just the tracklist for Ball Street Journal that I got in advance from someone in 40′s camp. Just the tracklist! No mp3, no nothing! Just a tracklist and they send the Storm Troopers after me again.

    The fact that these labels can’t see the benefit of sites like yours and mine and the countless others is AMAZING.

    Luckily 40 isn’t with Warner anymore so I won’t be worried about posting about him anymore.

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  60. donny darrow Says:

    i got hit up by this kassem guy also. but i think admin @ datpiff snitched me out cuz i was makin’ their top 8 without needing to pay them to “sponsor” my mixtapes.

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