RSSA Brief History of Jeezy vs. Gucci
Young Jeezy – “Stay Strapped“ (2005)
“Even his own mama know Radric Davis a bitch.”
Gucci Mane – “Round One“ (2005)
“Jeezy couldn’t make a hit with a Louisville Slugger.”
Gucci Mane f/ Black Magik- “Mini 14“ (2005)
“You’s a thug imposter / you deserve an oscar / your album ain’t hot / Def Jam finna drop ya.”
Young Jeezy – “Streets On Lock“ (2005)
“What type of real n***a name himself after a bag?”
Gucci Mane – “745“ (2006)
“I could’ve been dead / but I’m still breathin / do I smell pussy? / naw that’s Jeezy.”
Gucci Mane – “Young Money“ (2007)
“CTE / USDA / You’s a L-A-M / n***a where do you stay?”
Gucci Mane – “Benchwarmers“ (2007)
“What’s up Jeezy and what’s up Kinky? / them weak ass n***as couldn’t hurt my pinky.”
Gucci Mane – “Check“ (2009)
“I put Jeezy on / Jay-Z tell me where’s my finder’s fee?”
Young Jeezy – “24 23“ (2009)
“Kobe! Lebron! Kobe! Lebron!” [Ed.: I don't understand this analogy at all...]
Shout to all my late to the party gossip monger bloggers, this post is strictly in the interest of providing some historical perspective. The chronology could be a little off, correct it if you please.
Related: Gucci calmly brushes off Miss Info’s attempts to fan the flames of a long burnt out fire.
81 Comments, Comment or Ping
TSF
Yeeeah! Thanks for this rundown. As to the Kobe/Lebron shit, I don’t think it has anything to do with the beef, I think it has to do with coke prices. And wasn’t there a Jeezy diss on Writing on the Wall, too (on Gucci Montana, I think)? Anyway, great history lesson.
Jun 17th, 2009
Nico
Haha, I hope they ain’t comparin’ themselves to Kobe and Lebron… cause they DEF ain’t the kobe and lebron of the rap game and if they think they are their ego’s are far more inflated than I first thought.
Jun 17th, 2009
bding7
Another question about that hook: how did jeezy’s coke prices go from 17.5 to 24 to 23?
Jun 17th, 2009
Hosa
Noz i love this site to death but you did forget a couple shots on that writing on the wall especially the “jay z wheres my finders fee” line.
Oh and nico thanks for your contribution to the discourse. I couldnt mean that less.
Jun 17th, 2009
noz
Right “Last Time I Checked” was a major oversight. Upping it now.
Jun 17th, 2009
TSF
“Last Time I Checked,” that’s what I was talking about.
Jun 17th, 2009
TSF
“Another question about that hook: how did jeezy’s coke prices go from 17.5 to 24 to 23?”
^^ Maybe Jeezy is feeling the pinch of the shitty economy too, lmao.
Jun 17th, 2009
voltask
Either that or he felt exposed by Pimp C’s comments. I asked myself the same question anyway.
Jun 17th, 2009
thehoustongirl
^oo what did Pimp C say?! [said]
When I heard the Kobe/Lebron comparison; I think they Jeezy was comparing himself to Kobe: as in being in the league “game” longer, established, ect…Def Jam Label. Then he compares Gucci to Lebron: younger kid just got in the game, learning the ropes, ect…
like homeboy said them niggas feeling themselves too much! I mean I jam both of them but for God’s sakes they just rap about COCAINE. Its Cocaine Rap; its not that profound!! Its cute with the little punchlines and shit but come on!!!! How many times have Cocaine Rap been around? Ice T, Too Short, ect….
I aint hating the niggas but same shit different era, different reigon.
OK so we supposed to get wet over these niggas ‘beefing’ ? nowhere near the Pac/Biggie beef. These niggas need something else better to do.
*holds head* when has rap come to this?! :/
Jun 17th, 2009
wes
glad i’m not the only one confused by the kobe/lebron analogy. i thought it might be coke prices, but this is mr. 17.5 we’re talking, right? unless the pimp c comments made him changes his tune…
Jun 17th, 2009
BluHaze
“Who you calling murderer/ The only thing Im killing is your muthafucking girl jaw/ Smoking on that fruity jar/ girl you look like keisha cole/ I know you a dick pulla but cant fuck you blood raw”
“Hurry” from Writing On The Wall
Jun 17th, 2009
ItsMil
The Kobe, Lebron analogy is talkin’ about coke prices. But different sizes. 17.5 is a brick. 23/24 is a brick and a half. Now as to the whole beef, honestly, If yall rly listened to “The Recession”, Jeezy was airing Gucci out left and right. Jeezy is and will forever be a better rapper that Gucci. All Gucci talks about is coke, jewelry, and money. Im not gon’ lie, I bump the shit out Gucci, but he can’t actually rap. Jeezy is one of my favorites and “Thug Motivation 103″ is gonna shut shit down.
-oh and by the way, this whole beef started because Gucci didn’t wanna pay Jeezy his money for “So Icey”. When Jeezy made the song hot, seems to me like a little bitchassness. And does anyone else notice how Gucci uses almost all of Jeezy’s old ad-libs.
Jun 17th, 2009
David
“Im not gon’ lie, I bump the shit out Gucci, but he can’t actually rap.”
a lot of ppl who like gucci keep saying this & i dont get it at all. gucci is so much more of a lyricist than jeezy even if jeezy has broader topicality
Jun 17th, 2009
Mr. Montaug
Great rundown of the feud. On the 19th Jeezy and Gucci are both preforming at Super Jam down here in Greensboro, North Cackalacka; should be entertaining to see what (if anything) transpires…
Jun 17th, 2009
Ziploc Moe
“Who you calling murderer/ The only thing Im killing is your muthafucking girl jaw/ Smoking on that fruity jar/ girl you look like keisha cole/ I know you a dick pulla but cant fuck you blood raw”
“Hurry” from Writing On The Wall
^^
That’s why Haze is my nigga. I think “3rd Quarter” was shots at Jeezy too.
“Fuck your CEO fuck your artist and your goons too. Smell like pussy over there nigga fuck you.”
Jun 17th, 2009
Anonymiss
@ Mr. Montaug
They’re both performing at Birthday Bash here in the A on the 20th. I’m wondering how this shit is gonna play out too…especially here in Atlanta. Jeezy has to perform the song at Birthday Bash because both of them represent this city. I wonder if either of these cats will be clever enough to expose someone on that “summerjam screen” ala Jay Z.
Oh and I see you up there in the 336. I was born and raised in that area of North Cack. My lil sis was about to sell her superjam tickets but now she’s going and is all hype to see how this gucci v. jeezy shit goes down.
Jun 17th, 2009
ItsMil
David, are yu dumb.?
Dumb David.
Gucci, a lyricist.?????
that’s like sayin’ Lupe Fiasco is a gangster rapper.
Not gonna happen.
Jun 17th, 2009
MK
Where’s the video with “Gucci, why is yo’ name Gucci? You can’t afford no coochie!”?
Jun 17th, 2009
nation
noz nicely done, can we get the unabridged when you get the chance
Jun 17th, 2009
kobe, lebron
i think the kobe lebron stuff is saying gucci is like the little kid in the commercial who is on both lebron and kobes dick
Jun 17th, 2009
ma
hey dumbass he talking about prices ed kobe 24 racks lebron 23 racks you can be a corporate thug im disappointed at that ed ozonemag
Jun 17th, 2009
noz
Oh. I’ll tell Ed that.
Jun 17th, 2009
MZA
David’s right. Gucci is a MUCH better rapper than Jeezy. His wit and flow shit on Jeezy, and he’s far more articulate with structuring songs.
Jeezy has more subject matter, but he can’t write lyrics as well as Gucci. And I’m a big fan of both.
Jun 17th, 2009
boosie & paris hilton a carmel sundae
WHY CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET A BONG?
Jun 17th, 2009
noz
Gucci has improved a lot too, this audio is a testament to that. Comparatively Jeezy has just been treading water. (Treading over the right production but whatever.)
Jun 17th, 2009
David
i think jeezys made some smart & inspired choices musically tho, like he may have plateaued but he def aint fallen off
Jun 17th, 2009
MZA
I think Jeezy’s improved too, honestly. He first started changing his rapping style on that USDA album (especially on the track Corporate Thuggin’), and he’s found a way to incorporate more into his simple style of rhyming. Plus he’s branched a bit into more ‘conscious’ topics. Like the Recession. Which he only rapped about once on the Recession, in the title track, called the Recession. Okay, he really isn’t that varied in topics, but he is a little bit more than Gucci.
Obviously Gucci’s improved far more. He’s no where near the slow, yet humorous rapper he was when I got into him. he’s become a full-fledged beast.
Jun 17th, 2009
noz
He rapped about the recession on more than just the title track “Circulate” immediately comes to mind.
Jun 17th, 2009
MZA
I suppose I was being a little ignorant when I said that, that album still bumped. It just upsets me how so many people, people that used to treat jeezy like they treat Gucci now, only hopped on the Jeezy bandwagon after The Recession, because they thought him touching on the economy made it acceptable for their ignorant asses to finally listen to him.
Jun 18th, 2009
Tray
“Jeezy couldn’t make a hit with a Louisville Slugger.”
I’ve never really gotten disses that are patently nonsensical. He put this out at the time of Soul Survivor? When his biggest hit was So Icey? This is like if Nas accused Jay of wearing fake jewelry. Other than that, this latest Jeezy diss sucks, and yes, Gucci has surpassed Jeezy as a rapper. By a long way.
Jun 18th, 2009
Anonymiss
hopped on the Jeezy bandwagon after The Recession, because they thought him touching on the economy made it acceptable for their ignorant asses to finally listen to him.
^^eh…people hopped on it because it was a good ass album–fire beats and he stepped up the lyricalism of his raps. he could have talked about some other shit and if he did it as well he still would have gained new fans. the people who weren’t into jeezy beforehand were weary of his flow. as in his ability to cohesively put together words that rhymed with an intricate pattern while maintaining some sense of a storyline, topic etc. before he dropped “the recession” i was starting to think he fell off because i missed the “trap or die” mixtape era jeezy. fortunately he redeemed himself with “the recession” which allowed him to gain new fans because of his lyrical progression as an artist and maintain his old fans by still staying true to his core–dope beats, witty catchphrases and etc.
Jun 18th, 2009
steels magnolia
Thanks for clarifying this “Kobe/Lebron” mess, because I was confused. Still not sure if it’s coke prices or who’s been in the game longer, but prolly coke since that’s what most of the comments keep saying?
@ ItsMil I keep telling people about the whole “So Icey” drama and they give me blank face – thanks for saying it again.
I have to say that while Gucci is less terrible than the “So Icey” days, it’s a mean stretch to say that he’s lyrical- just like I told ATL’s DJ Holiday. Matter of fact, I laughed at him when he said “I think Gucci is very lyrical”- I’m sorry, but the rap journo snob in me just oozed out. Still, Jeezy was pretty simple lyrically when he first dropped, but he’s gotten much better and I agree with Noz that he’s already had a great selection of beats – though he’s yet to figure out how to make a chick song, but that’s another post.
All that said, I just hope all these disses don’t end up in ANOTHER body. It’s a recession (no Jeezy) we have enough problems…
Jun 18th, 2009
Tray
“before he dropped “the recession” i was starting to think he fell off because i missed the “trap or die” mixtape era jeezy.”
Yeah you might want to catch up on that.
Jun 18th, 2009
Definiton of 24, 23
the definition of 24, 23 is really deep, this is what i got from the other blog sites:
i used to pay Kobe, who is on the LA Lakers, which correlates to L.A. Reid of Island Def Jam. now he pays Lebron, who is on the Cavs, which correlates to Jay-Z, because of Jay-Z’s apparent liking of the player, who recently has his own label, Roc Nation.
it’s something across those lines, aside that, it has other meaning to it. but don’t get it misconstrued, he’s definitely not talking his selling prices, lol.
Jun 18th, 2009
BTW
notice how Young Jeezy came out with one real freestyle to debilitate Gucci Mane’s career whereas Gucci Mane has came out with about 7. I find it quite hilarious when i see the GM fans trying to say he is more relevant than Young Jeezy. It’s clear and apparent to see that Young Jeezy has much better quality lyricism, flow, style, etc.
I understand he’s “cocaine rap” and so is GM but it’s foolish & naive to believe that GM has a better track record than Young Jeezy.
Jun 18th, 2009
The Zim
GUCCI !!!!! COME ON JUST LISTEN TO THAT…
Jun 18th, 2009
i'm in shambles?
easy all the dubsteppers:
who else loves this gucci and shawty lo “hood up”, at least that’s what it’s called on this trap playoffs mixtape…. it’s got a southern dubstep thing goin on, it’s really great
Jun 18th, 2009
DR. NO
I appreciate that you’re trying to keep it about music, but the fact that Jeezy sent somebody to rob Gucci + Gucci killed him and beat the case means that Gucci won in the streets. No diss track is gonna change that. Rap-wise, Jeezy’s position is solid, he ain’t going anywhere. But Gucci is way more creative, has more styles, is the hottest our right now. Together they’ve got some of the best adlibs going..
Jun 18th, 2009
noz
“I’ve never really gotten disses that are patently nonsensical. He put this out at the time of Soul Survivor? When his biggest hit was So Icey?”
“Round 1″ predates “Soul Survivor,” iirc.
Jun 18th, 2009
Clo3o5
said i used to pay kobe now i pay lebron
He used to pay 24,000 for a kilo now he pays 23….simple
Jun 18th, 2009
Anonymiss
Yeah you might want to catch up on that.
^^Nah no need for me to catch up. I was a big fan of Jeezy before he dropped his first album and blew up. I was definitely feeling the mixtapes before Thug Motivation 101, enjoyed TM101, and I fucked with The Inspiration just not as much as hard as I fucked with his previous stuff. I like my rappers to sound hungry and he didn’t sound quite as hungry on The Inspiration to me. Doesn’t mean the album wasn’t good, just not as good. He definitely came with it on The Recession though.
Jun 18th, 2009
mr. pilly wonk
Awesome post. But doesn’t this gloss over the “justifiable homicide” that came out of their beef? That shit was ugly.
Jun 18th, 2009
steve
is the cbrap community really impressed with these disses?? it sounds like some preschool shit to me.
“Jeezy couldn’t make a hit with a Louisville Slugger.”
“You’s a thug imposter / you deserve an oscar / your album ain’t hot / Def Jam finna drop ya.”
“What’s up Jeezy and what’s up Kinky? / them weak ass n***as couldn’t hurt my pinky.”
Jun 18th, 2009
noz
“is the cbrap community really impressed with these disses?? ”
Like I said, this post is strictly historical.
Jun 18th, 2009
DocZeus
“CTE / USDA / You’s a L-A-M / n***a where do you stay?”
A lam? Not lame? Not lamb? But lam? Are we sure now that Gucci’s a lyrical genius for using words like gorgeous?
Jun 18th, 2009
ItsMil
@ Doczeus: Exactly. Somebody understands.
listen, point blank period, Until Gucci can put together an album that’s about half as good as:
-Thug Motivation 101
-The Inspiration: Thug Motivation 102
-The Recession
or the highly anticipated…
-Thug Motivation 103
he’ll still nothing but a mixtape artist who waste’s record label’s money by tryin to put an album together.
Jun 18th, 2009
noz
““CTE / USDA / You’s a L-A-M / n***a where do you stay?”
A lam? Not lame? Not lamb? But lam? Are we sure now that Gucci’s a lyrical genius for using words like gorgeous?”
These sort of slip ups are stupid but not really uncommon in hip hop. Think C-Double-O-M-O-N. or Warren “What’s N-X-E-T?” G.
Jun 18th, 2009
khal
i figured “kobe, lebron” was him talking about characters he’d use playing Live or 2K9. i just figured he did the track before the most recent playoffs.
*shrug* i don’t get it.
Jun 18th, 2009
ronnieboi22
coke is like everything else prices goes up and dwn my nigga
Jun 18th, 2009
Burn One
““CTE / USDA / You’s a L-A-M / n***a where do you stay?”
A lam? Not lame? Not lamb? But lam? Are we sure now that Gucci’s a lyrical genius for using words like gorgeous?”
@noz gucci recorded that and about 7 other “6 minute freestyle” style songs at my studio for Chicken Talk. He came out the booth and was like “damn…I didn’t even know I was gonna say that.” So I told him we wouldn’t use it due to the fact that he dissed everyone he could think of for no apparent reason. lol
Jun 18th, 2009
zee
Kobe’s the cocaine and Lebron is that brown that heroin hahah
Jun 18th, 2009
David
“I’ve never really gotten disses that are patently nonsensical. He put this out at the time of Soul Survivor? When his biggest hit was So Icey? This is like if Nas accused Jay of wearing fake jewelry. Other than that, this latest Jeezy diss sucks, and yes, Gucci has surpassed Jeezy as a rapper. By a long way.”
uhhhh no this was before he had any hits that werent ’so icey’ & in case you didnt notice ’so icy’ was a gucci song??? that he wouldnt give jeezy permission to use on his album. jeezy was mad at that, bcuz he was signed to def jam but his only hit single was gucci’s
gucci was wrong but at the time it seemed reasonable enough, and it really points to how much of a well-rounded artist gucci is that he sees that hooks actually mean something. jeezy has a much more narrow style … jeezy vs. gucci would be like comparing freeway to biggie, freeway’s totally talented but his lane is much narrower (tho obv i would say jeezy’s better than freeway & biggie better than gucci but bear with me)
Jun 18th, 2009
David
“DocZeus
A lam? Not lame? Not lamb? But lam? Are we sure now that Gucci’s a lyrical genius for using words like gorgeous?”
was hoping noz clowning your reductive caricatures of this argument would keep u folks from making it over & over but apparently youre not a ‘lyrical blogger genius’
Jun 18th, 2009
Daniel
Jeezy is tha best, hands down. He Killed Gucci on stay strapped and on Street on lock. Gucci is just a hood nigga who just rap about trappin and how much money he got. gucci is lame.
Jun 18th, 2009
MZA
that dude, sellCOKE at hip-hop utopia, totally bit my one comment >.>
Jun 18th, 2009
mixx
cheaa dat niqqa tlkin on sum coke shytt
n
dat niqqa Gucci dissin em on dat tracc “Hurry”
n
di 6eef shytt qo farr den sum fuccin diss traccz
niqqaz dunn died off di 6eef already
deyy need ta kool out
Jun 18th, 2009
eighty7thirty2
obv kobe lebron talkin bout coke prices idiot not sayin him n gucci best in the game wtf
Jun 18th, 2009
eighty7thirty2
i pity the dumb motherfucker who saysd gucci has surpassed jeezy as a rapper u faggot ignorant fuck
Jun 18th, 2009
gas finest
everybody in the city know jeezy is killin them boys! gucci and oj wouldnt be nothin without zaytoven…..
Jun 19th, 2009
SNOMANE
HOW AND THE FUCC DOES GUCCI HAVE MORE MONEY DEN JEEZY JEEZY GOT 3 PLATINUM ALBUMS ENDORSEMENT DEAL WIT ADIDAS, VODKA, A SELLIN CLOTHING LINE, CONCERT HEADLINER HELL HE’S EVEN IN A UPCOMING MOVIE SO I JUST WANNA KNO HOW GUCCI IS CLOSE 2 JEEZY IN MONEY HE JUS NOW GOT A MAJOR DEAL JEEZY BEEN HAVIN A DEAL YALL NEED 2 CHECC YALL WORDS B4 YALL SPEAK CUZ YALL JUS SOUND DUMB GUCCI JUS GET THA PARTIES HYPE OTHA DEN DAT HE AINT SHIT WTF JEEZY GOTTA HATE 4 IT GUCCI IS MORE RANDOM DEN WAYNE DRUG ADDICT ASS
Jun 19th, 2009
David
^^^^jeezy?
Jun 19th, 2009
JEEZY
Yall need to listen to that nigga snomane. For the people saying gucci better then jeezy yall stupid jeezy killed him with on freestyle
Jun 21st, 2009
eloquentguccimane
LOL SOMEBODY SAID GUCCI WAS ARTICULATE
Jun 26th, 2009
wow
Gucci is gettin good. I listen to both of them. Jeezy is better if u consider the albums, clothing line, endorsements, etc. Gucci Mane will start to have good albums tho. Gucci albums were tossed out there by Big Cat, who GM dissed, so the recent tossed album Big Cat has did-Murder was The Caase- wasn’t offially something gucci mane wanted out. That also has a diss on it. ” Young Jeezy there’s a bullet wit ya name on it.” I do believe Gucci Mane’s offical album will sale.
Jul 14th, 2009
trillcilla
man on some real shit jeezy be tearin gucci up, not a nigga in the game like that dude, ok so you got gucci and juiceman goin against jeezy, jay-z, and TI? what a stupid ass nigga
Jul 28th, 2009
gucci
there is some more disses on guccis album murder was the case…but fuck jeezy he is the fakest rapper in the game
Sep 2nd, 2009
KardoCC202
U forgot “Murder For Fun” feat. OX (2005), “Everybody Know Me” (2006) “Blow Pop” (2006) “Put On Freestyle” (2008) “Gangsta Movie” (2008), “Bachelor Pad” (2008) and “Hurry” (2009). All of those disses are also from Gucci, “Round 1″ he put that out first before Jeezy came wit “Stay Strapped” (Freestyle). Gucci also disses Jeezy in his new mixtape wit Drama “The Movie, Part 2 (Gangsta Grillz – The Sequal)”. Listen to “Hottest Rapper”, “Alot”, “Superhero”, especially “Awsome” in his second verse, “Burr”, and “Loud”. Black Magik, OX, and Young Snead dissesd Jeezy in Magik’s mixtape Street Certified, Vol. 2″ back in 05. Jeezy responed to Gucci on a track called “A-Town Summer” on Slick Pulla’s “4th Ward Day” mixtape back in 05.
Sep 8th, 2009
trill
jeezy price wen from 17 5 to 23 24 25 cuz jeezy a bitch
he ain neva sold dope, pimp call out all pusy atlanta rapperz that claimin they got 17 5 n ain no 17 5 exist in no atlanta, put a dress on nigga, jeezy fake ass rapper fukin wit gucci outa get him kild
Sep 16th, 2009
trill
n TI one pusy azz nigga, he aint even from no atlanta, yall beakin gucci, check the pimp he diss TI an JEEZY ain nothin ever happen, jeezy gotsa claim 10 g’s on guc’s chain cause he or his boys ain goin get nothin
Sep 16th, 2009
trill
YO SNOMANE UPCOMMIN MOVIE YOU JUST SAY?
THOUGHT JEEZY SAY CLOSEST HE EVA BE COMMERCIAL WEN HE WATCH TV, FUCK JEEZY FUCK TI AND FUCK JAY Z FAKE ASS NIGGAZ
Sep 16th, 2009
trill
lisen heavy chevy boyz den listen streets on lock
street on lock sound like he fukin talkin
a nigga make a diss song n i ain even hurd it
jeezy cun make a hit wit a lois ville sluggga
peep this pimp shit up in youtube here the link fo al yu fake azz jeezy lovin toung ring ass niggaz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaQmxiLTr8U&feature=PlayList&p=B6C117DF53A8967D&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=37
atlanta ain even souf motha fukas
southside biatch southern smoke motha fucka
Sep 16th, 2009
trill
yu got 17 5 prices in atl trill niggas buy tha shit and flush it down toilet cus we ain support drugs, rose up in timberlan boots and tryna act like they som big time drug dealer, straigh from tha pimps mouf i aint diss young jeezy cus jeezy ain the only one spreadin fake dope prices i dissin ery 1 lien bout sellin d druuugs
Sep 16th, 2009
Nicetravel
??? ????? ?????????? ? ????????????? ???????? ??????? ? ?????????. ???? ???????
Sep 19th, 2009
ThaHabitat
Jeezy will always be a better rapper than gucci hands down. Jeezy made Gucci, when he was down he did so icy to get up. When he was down AGAIN he went BACK to jeezy for a remix. Gucci stealing all his ad libs. Tm 103 almost out and now Gucci back down. Nah thats some pussy shit. Young got real songs and real albums and a real life. Gucci got a break and took advantage. Yeah he hard as fuck but he aint tru as fuck
Nov 22nd, 2009
jeezydatnigga
jeezy is by far better den gucci can ever dream to be gucci aint shit wont neva do shit n aint on ma dog jeezy level so like jeezy say he dont need no help he can hold his own dick lol so get off it gucci
Dec 3rd, 2009
Baby Veeno
23 & 24 are guns
Dec 20th, 2009
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